Here’s an interesting angle….

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Kevin McNichol

Expert Consultant at ICF International

Here’s an interesting angle….
Say your commute is about 30 miles. In that 30 miles, I think the FCV generates about 1 gallon of water. Let’s suppose that same commute is used by 10,000 other FCVs. Where does all that water go? 😉 (now think about those in the northern climates in the winter!)

You might be saving gas and solving the SE water problem at the same time!

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Why does the Hyundai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle only offer a closed end lease?

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Gerben Wulff Consultant at WBSO Portaal

The reason they lease it is because the car is quite expensive to purchase because the fuel cell contains a significant amount of platinum. I would not be surprised if after the 36 month lease they recycle the fuel cell. Hopefully by then they can make a fuel cell with less platinum.

 

Ruben Gonzalez Sales and Marketing at Dot Fulfillment Services Top Contributor

Gerben

Thank you for that information I did not know that was the case.

I was hoping it wasn’t going to be another Chevy EV1 story.

 

Why did you purchase this car?

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Gerben Wulff

Consultant at WBSO Portaal

Hi Ruben,

I read your blog. Keep it up.
The question that springs to my mind now is why you bought this car. You had a BMW which in many ways is a better car, but instead you choose to buy a fuel cell car. It seems like you had little upfront knowledge of what driving a FCV would be like. Knowing what makes people like you choose to buy an FCV would be valuable information for people who try to sell and market FCVs

Gerben,

Gerben, 

Why would I switch from the BMW to a Hyundai? How many times in a lifetime do we have the opportunity to actually be apart of something that just might revolutionize the way we live, the way we travel, our economy and most importantly our environment! It’s not the name brand that sold me it was the technology and the opportunity.Hyundai took a leap ahead of the other manufactures and I am grateful that I have the privilege to a part of their FCV team.

Yes in many ways the BMW was a superior car. Some of the features the BMW had I do miss. However most of the features that were special and extra on the BMW I had are standard and included in the Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell. For example I didn’t have seat warmers or the back up camera included in my 5 series. The seating was way more comfortable in the BMW not to say that the Hyundai is a torture to drive just not as comfortable in the seating area. It has very narrow seats. The Hyundai does have a better and easier to use navigation system. The bluetooth is also much better and I love that you can touch the screen to use the phone key pad. The BMW was not a touch screen so using the phone and typing in extensions was difficult.

Having said that the handling is great. The power off the line is so much better than I would have imagined. There is very little power loss driving up hill. I would say that the Hyundai has exceeded my driving and handling expectations and do not feel that I stepped down/ backwards at all.

Ruben Gonzalez Sales and Marketing at Dot Fulfillment Services

A question about mileage and range

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Ashrith K. Domun – Summer Cohort at The Hatchery – University of Toronto

Congratulations on your new car and I’m sure many of us here will be eager to follow this blog! One thing I’m confused about is that the initial range figures released by Hyundai for the fuel cell Tucson was about 594 miles, and now they’ve changed it to about 280 miles. I’d like to know what the reason for this discrepancy is. I know it’s risky to carry a range test to empty on your own, but how far do you think you’d be able to go in everyday conditions?

Ashrith, 

This answer is directly from the concierge assigned to me at Hyundai: The 594 range is in kilometers not miles. Initially we advertised the Tucson Fuel Cell range was 365 miles based on the NEDC (New European Dynamic Cycle) and not actual EPA label values. That makes a big difference. At that time we had not yet tested according to EPA requirements. Since then, we’ve made adjustments to our mileage to 265 miles.

Daily driving and having just put over 600 miles on the car I estimate that I am getting about 250 miles. The lowest I ran the car was down to about 50 miles left to run. With a fossil fuel car I wouldn’t have worried that much about running it lower for testing purposes. However with this car and as I am still getting used to the range I was not going to run it any lower.

Thank you for your comments.

Ruben S. Gonzalez
Dot Fulfillment Services

Hydrogen is safe

Hydrogen Fuel Cell is safeHydrogen is the simplest, most common and lightest element known and yields the highest amount of energy  per unit weight of all fuels. It produces energy at three times the volume of gasoline.

  • Hydrogen is non-toxic, non-poisonous, and will not contaminate groundwater. A release of hydrogen into the air will not contribute to atmospheric pollution.
  • Hydrogen is 14 times lighter than air and rises at 20 meters per second, which means that it diffuses extremely rapidly.  Due this high buoyancy, when released into the air, hydrogen quickly diffuses into a non-flammable concentration.
  • When compared to hydrocarbon fires, hydrogen fires have much lower levels of radiant heat, greatly reducing the risk of secondary fires.
  • Hydrogen needs oxygen to burn, meaning that combustion within a hydrogen tank is impossible.  In event of a leak, the physical properties of hydrogen would force the gas to quickly diffuse and rise, moving the gas away from the leak.

Like all fuels, hydrogen is flammable and must be handled properly. However from what I have researched it does not pose any higher level of threat than a conventional fossil fuel vehicle.  The particular Hyundai Fuel Cell car I am driving has been subjected to extensive safety testing. There are many internal safety mechanisms to ensure the safety of the vehicle. All Hyundai vehicles complete a rigorous crash test program before they are ever driven on public roads. The Tucson Fuel Cell has undergone crash tests for offset-frontal, side and rear impact, as well as fire tests. Also, there are several impact sensors. In event of a crash, the sensors stop the release of hydrogen from the tanks.

With all of the facts that I have learned about the Hydrogen Fuel Cell technology  the science, engineering and testing that has been put into my car I can now answer “Why yes it is safe let me tell you why.”

Sources: Hydrogen is SafeHydrogen BasicsHyundai Fuel Cell Facts